In the New York Observer, former Crimsonian Leon Neyfakh writes a piece of “Ivyology” about the nature of Yalies in Manhattan.
(This is pretty rare air, right?)
Yaliens in New York continue to have a unique relationship to their city. Part of the problem is that some of them actually do see it as their city.
“New York is Yale’s backyard,” said Richard Bradley, the magazine journalist who graduated from Yale in 1986 and went on to write a book about Harvard. “It’s something you take for granted—you’re fish, so you swim in the ocean.”
Sort of a douchey quote, I guess. (You may notice that it sounds oddly like a man who just returned from a week on a small boat in the Pacific.)
But here’s the funny part: Before I agreed to be interviewed, I asked the writer if we could speak on background—meaning that he couldn’t quote me unless he subsequently called me back and asked for my permission—because, a) I hadn’t really thought about the subject very much and wasn’t sure how coherent I’d be, and b) I’d just returned from a week on a small boat in the Pacific, and wasn’t sure how coherent I’d be.
So I wanted to be able to speak freely to the guy but know that, if he needed to quote me, I’d have the chance to think more rigorously about how to articulate my thoughts.
And then a weird thing happened: He quoted me anyway! Just…without calling me back.
And not always entirely accurately, I might add.
“Yalies compete with each other by trying to do more interesting and creative and unusual things, whereas Harvard people try to compete with each other in a more conventional way, by getting farther, faster in their careers,” said Mr. Weisberg. “Harvard people try to be more, and Yale people try to be different. The way to impress your Yale coterie is not to make partner at an early age or to run something at an early age—it’s sort of to invent a job or just do something really cool and hopefully socially conscious.”
At Harvard, Mr. Bradley added, “you’re basically going to school at a mall—a place that doesn’t want to admit it’s a mall.”
So here’s the deal: I made that comment in the context of talking about how going to school in New Haven shapes Yalies, grounds them in a way that doesn’t happen to Harvard students in Cambridge; when I referred to a mall, I was explicitly referencing Harvard Square, and Leon laughed and said something like, “Oh, I think they pretty much admit that now.”
So there you are.
Nonetheless, I contacted Leon about it, and he admitted that he goofed, which was the right thing to do, and no major harm done, onward and upward. (I’m just glad we weren’t talking about something serious.)
What I did try to get at was Yale’s influence in New York in particular in law, politics and the arts, and how for generations of Yalies New York exerted a gravitational pull just as Boston did for generations—past generations—of Harvardians.
Not sure I was entirely successful at that, though.