Shots In The Dark
Monday, August 06, 2024
  More on Night Water
Because I am interested in the origin of words and phrases, I've been trying to discover citations for "night water" and "night soil," terms raised in the Drew Faust item below. Are they really urine and excrement produced at night? Or is there a deeper, darker meaning?

(I know, charming topic for a Monday morning, but this is all about the advancement of knowledge, so hang in there.)

The terms are surprisingly difficult to find via Google.

But night soil is discussed in this 1897 work on agriculture; it appears to be a blend of excrement and earth. Our author—Frank Humphreys Storer, 1832-1914, former dean of the Bussey Institution at Harvard, papers in the university archives—suggests that fresh waste makes better fertilizer than does night soil.*

Indeed, one strong objection to the use of night-soil...is its great liability to variation. The farmer can seldom be sure as to the real value of any given load of it—not nearly so sure as he would be in the case of horse-manure or cow-dung. As has already been intimated, many farmers enar Boston are willing enough to use night-soil provided they can obtain it in the form of fresh solid excrement....

As for night water..well, brace yourself. There's a reference in Samuel Pepys' diary to night water, and it's not what you think. Apparently one of the chief ingredients in 17th century anti-wrinkle creams was dogs' urine, also known as "night water." A 1656 pamphlet advised the reader that "evey morning when you rise you must wash your face in Puppy dog water, and then lay on the painting [makeup]."

Forgive me, because this is too easy.... But is there any particular Harvard professor who might be able to shed some light on these waste-related issues? (And don't you dare say anything about all this being a "waste" of time.....)

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* Incidentally, this work is online because of Google's digitization of Harvard's libraries. Interesting.
 
Comments:
Webster's Collegiate Dictionary lists "night soil" as "human excrement collected for fertilizing the soil." In the Sydney suburb where I grew up, there is a lane running along the back of the houses that was originally used by the night soil men to collect waste from the outhouses that were situated along its edges. Although the back lanes still exist, the collection of "night soil" took place long before my time, which is why I used my mother's phrase "in the olden times." The waste was not necessarily produced in the night-time, just collected then.
The term "night water" is not in the print version of Webster's I have in front of me. "Night water" may really be produced during the night: for me, the phrase conjures up the image of the contents of a chamber pot being thrown out the window onto the garden beds.
 
Night-soil collectors were an important part of the early NYC economy. But the real money was in horse shit. Contractors bid for the right to pick up the manure that horses and other animals left in the city streets, which was then sold to farmers in outlying areas such as Greenwich Village (and so on up the island).
 
folks, this is a pretty serious charge leveled at the new president- be sure you are certain of this practice before anymore discussion- there are health inspector ramifications and dont invite problems where none exist for the sake of gossip.
 
Any basic history of China discusses night soil, since it has been used there for 5000 years and is the reason they've been able to have productive agriculture for so long; otherwise their soils would have been depleted long ago.
 
code issues folks, this is america not china and we have epa standards.
 
yeah, because those EPA standards are so stringent...
 
I don't think it's illegal to put "night water" on the garden. In fact, it's often recommended as a rabbit deterrent. Fox urine, available at garden centers and unfortunately not free, may be better, though.
 
Is that supposed to keep the deer away?
 
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