Shots In The Dark
Friday, February 02, 2007
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You may have read the recent New Yorker article about Brazilian singer Caetano Veloso and his new album, Ce. In it, Sasha Frere-Jones makes the point, well-known to Veloso fans, that Veloso is often described as Bob Dylan.

No offense to Dylan, but I think it's really the other way around. While Dylan is thought of as a rebel and a protester, Veloso is far more radical, far more dangerous, than Dylan ever was; Veloso was actually jailed in the late 1960s by the military dictatorship in Brazil—with no charges filed, and how terrifying that must be—before leaving for a multi-year exile in France. As one of the founders of tropicalia, the Brazilian protest (in the right context) music that has helped to capture that country's image of beauty mixed with tragedy, Veloso has had a profound influence on the music of a nation that's bigger than the continental United States. And as ambitious a lyricist as Dylan is, Veloso challenges his listeners a bit more, I think.

He does the same musically—Veloso seems to experiment with different styles on every album—and Ce is no different. Frere-Jones calls it a rock album. I guess, but it's not really like any rock you've ever heard. In different places, it's weird and catchy and lovely, sometimes difficult and sometimes almost instantly addictive.

Give it a listen on iTunes—the second song, "Minhas Lagrimas," is a nice place to start. And those who really like it might want to read his autobiography, Tropical Truth, which is both a personal history and a social, cultural and political one. Veloso is a fascinating man, well worth getting to know.
 
Comments:
Are you really in a position to assess Veloso's lyrics against Dylan? Is there any point in even trying to do so? And if you do, shouldn't you provide a little more support for your argument? What does Veloso do with his lyrics and how do you assess that against Dylan's?
 
Why do we feel the need to compare artists? What an inane, senseless pursuit.
 
10:02 and 12:31 - who peed in your corn flakes this morning?
 
Arlo Guthrie said (somewhat ruefully) that Dylan wrote the sound track for the 60s. Did Veloso do that for Brazil?
 
1:11 - This may all be a joke to you, but its not to those of us who came of age in the 60s and can claim a role in fighting against The Man. Dylan was not just the soundtrack of our time, he was the pied piper and marching band combined. We changed the world while dancing to his tune. Veloso may be a brave man, and the struggle in Brazil at that time may have plenty of meaning for Brazilians, but it doesn't compare to what we did. It's time to recognize that everything we take for granted today culturally speaking (from racial equality to multiculturalism and onward) is thanks to us. Caetano Veloso is a great musician, but Dylan was the true revolutionary.
 
The '60s also gave us the backlash to the '60s -- Reaganism. So thanks for nothing.
 
Veloso's lyrics challenge his audience more than Dylan's, Richard? Would that include V.'s Michael Jackson cover and the song "I hate you, I hate you I hate you"? 12:31 is right that it is senseless to compare artists in this way and Veloso says as much in the New Yorker articles:

As Veloso put it in an interview, Dylan “is an artist who hides his personality behind the art he is creating. He would never ever touch his work with explanation or analysis. And I am the opposite. I am almost not an artist.”

Still . . . I've been listening to Dylan for 40+ years, teaching him for three, and I agree with 1:11 that the songs Dylan put out up till till Feb 10 1964 (i.e. 43 years ago), maybe Aug. 8 1964 (if you include Another Side of Bob Dylan's Chimes of Freedom -- much more lyrical than the protest songs of The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan and The Times they are a-changin') were great protest songs. He does great reperformances of them on tour, and Masters of War works as well against Rumsfeld and Cheney as it did against the warmongerers of the 60's. Will this be true of Veloso 40 years hence, or will he be more as Sinatra is for today's 20-year old? Btw if Dylan had lived in a dictatorship he wouldn't have made it to 1965.

Again, those songs were written more than 40 years ago and from things he writes in e.g. Chronicles, vol. 1 Dylan himself despises being equated with the "protest songs" of albums 1-3. The fact is taht the 40-odd albums he has produced since, including last August's brilliant Modern Times, put him in a league of his own, as Veloso clearly knows.

For my own view of Dylan's latest, see the end of this Crimson piece, which begins with Pres. Summers' various favorites and ends with mine from MT.

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=516461

On a different subject, excellent piece from The Rev. Peter Gomes

Richard Thomas
 
Come on Rich...next thing you will be something equally silly like comparing Depeche Mode to the Beatles...wait!?!
 
Actually both Bob Dylan and Caetano Veloso are very good businessmen, in addition to being fine musicians of very different type and temperament. Their success as marketers, though, is as prominent in the wide view. Indeed, self-promotion is the coin of the artist -- and they've spent it wisely, as these posts so aptly demonstrate.
 
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